Taylor Swift appears on the New Heights podcast alongside the Kelse brothers
Taylor Swift covered a wide range of topics during his two-hour appearance on the “New Heights” podcast with Jason and Travis Kelse.
Taylor Swift is decorated with jewels with “energy” gems.
On an August 13 episode of Kelce Brothers’ “New Heights” podcast, Swift advised listeners, saying their attention should be considered a valuable commodity and that they should not do anything too important to interactions that don’t help their well-being.
“You should think about your energy, as if it were luxury,” Swift said. “Not everyone can afford it. Not everyone is investing in you so that you can have capital to care about this. What you use your energy is that day.”
Protecting her energy diamonds is the reason she disabled Instagram comments about 10 years ago, and “don’t miss” being online.
“I’m going to separate from the internet in a huge way,” she said in the episode. She released her 12th studio album, The Life of a Showgirl, on October 3rd.
So, rather than missing a good day of “obsessing” to one person called “around” in the comments, the pop star said we should adjust it all.
“We’re in an age where we’re distracted,” says digital wellness expert Mark Ostack. “Taylor models fantastic digital wellness practices… Your life purpose is realizing that it doesn’t come from the impression you get online. Your identity and value aren’t rooted in the number you have.”
Is it time to give Taylor advice? Here’s how to explain whether you need to take a step back from social media and how to do it:
Protects the “diamond” of energy
Swift shared Sage’s advice when he knows when it’s time to leave digital discourse.
“If your algorithm is giving you criticism of yourself or you are giving you praise or praise for creating an ecosystem that is a central part of the table,” she said. “I don’t think it’s healthy.”
Many of us struggle with this “post-traumatic scroll obstacle,” says Ostach. The endless digital diet we consume overwhelm us with fear and anxiety from the moment we wake up. As a first step to confusing this cycle, Ostach recommends turning off comments, removing phones from the site, blocking apps, and setting social media time constraints.
“When we customize our mood based on scrolling moments, we are sensitive to anxiety, self-esteem issues, or lack of motivation,” he says.
Swift has been speaking out about her struggle to balance mental health with her public persona. On the podcast, she said “Showgirl Life” peels off the curtains about what she really felt while performing an epic 149 Show ERAS tour in front of a sold-out crowd. Swift has learned to separate noise from music. Online that doesn’t serve her is “not my business.”
These boundaries promote Swift’s creativity, says Ostach.
“When you’re trying to change the behavior, you need to replace it with something like smoking or scrolling,” says Ostach. Ostack says that in ways Taylor puts pens on paper or attends the Chiefs game with his friends, Ostak should find intentional behavior outside the ecosystem of comparisons.
“They will revive your heart and spirit,” he says. “What you bring to the world is the light of what you did in your dark space (offline).”
Not all of us are pop stars who pay microscopic attention to our lives, but everyone easily falls into supporting social media in real relationships. If people in your life complain that you are focused on being loved online too much or online, a real connection is a sign to leave it, says Ostach.
To find a real connection, he suggests asking, “How are you?” And actually pause for a response. Or exchange Dming posts with friends and take a walk outside together. Sniff, hear, and feel the nature around you in that moment.
Swift said that from her obsession with sourdough creation to her love for wild otters, she prioritizes her connection to her boyfriend, Travis Kels, with their hobbies. Their own intimacy defines relationships rather than online predictions.
“Can you imagine that we just talked about what people said about our relationship?” she said on the podcast. “If we talked about it, that’s because everything we talked about is so chatty. We’re busy having a real relationship.”

